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Zion

Hawk

Stone

Hollywood

Caliban

Segments

John Pariah

Jordan Caliban

Troy Stone

Brian Hollywood

Judges

Hollywood

SHOW COMMENTS: Show finally posted! I wanted to post this show on Wednesday but a lot of you guys had issues with the RP DL this week due to RL events. So I extended it an extra day. There were still some missing but those that got with me and notified me about your no shows, you were dismissed.

Segments....ugh, don't want to even talk about this. 4 segments? 4...for the biggest PWX event of the year? That's really sad. 4 is really bad. Kind of disappointed in that...

Also, as of this writing, the DL's for shows will not be extended unless I need it extended or something happens that it needs extended. Also, been thinking heavily about setting the DL's back to Tuesday nights at midnight CST. That way, I have all day to judge RP's and I can get the shows up on Wednesday nights.

Also, I'll be posting applications on the forums for Match Writers. That way, I have official match writers. I'll have something open for a lead match writer and 2-3 other writers. I expect PWX's roster to get bigger soon and as the roster gets bigger, the more matches that will be on the show. So match writers will be needed but I'll get an app out there on that a little bit later.

As for the show, I thought it was a very solid show. Another two part show, which is great! Means massive show! Great show, great action and a lot of nice swerves!

Alright, now its your guys turn! I would really appreciate feedback on this show guys as it's the BIGGEST event of the year! So PLEASE, leave feedback and use the topics below this writing to post your thoughts on the show! Alright...have at it!


Match of the Night

Segment of the Night

Break out Star

Face of the Night

Heel of the Night

Show Rating

Comments/Concerns

[johnpariah]

Match of the Night
The Best of Five Finals..though I really think the winning team should be awarded the Tag Titles...since the show only had ONE Title match.

Segment of the Night
They were all okay

Break out Star
I love Jordan Caliban...seriously. He's one of my personal picks for 2014. Ricky Valero as well. Hell that entire Six Man Tag Match contained enough fresh talent to carry the company

Face of the Night
im going to be selfish, and the way the All Out War match went down, made Pariah / Graves to look super empathetic...

Heel of the Night
Hollywood. Cock smoker..

Show Rating
Four mooses out of Five mooses.

Comments/Concerns
Did not see Ojeda returning coming. First big reveal that I got to see without being part of staff. I knew Brian was turning heel-but i didnt know Ojeda was coming back

[jordancaliban]

I got one small problem, I pretty much did all the trash talking and all the build up for that match and low and behold the guy writing it had me out on the apron for most of it. Thanks for that

[PWXonline]

Sorry about that Calliban, we will definitely make note of that and give that to our match writer. We apologize for that greatly.

[PWXonline]

And BTW that was Zion responding to it, I thought I was still logged into my account. My bad, but yes, rest assured, I'll take that one to Hollywood. We value you your opinion very much so we know how to encorperate it to some changes Hollywood's looking at making for us to get better.

[jordancaliban]

Thank you

[Deleted]

Re the Best of 5 Finals: The way I conceived it in my mind, the cage wasn't up tight against the ring. Probably should have mentioned that somewhere along the line.

[Willow Wilkes]

I might be the new guy but I will say this, great show all around guys, I'm still familiarizing myself with the characters but overall two thumbs up. Also I didn't catch where there was a segment call but I know for next time.
On a side note all of us that promoed hyped up that Six-Man Tag match so it's a pretty unfair comment stating that you were the only one that did JC. The gripe for the match sure that's your prerogative but to insinuate that you did all the selling is taking it to the extreme and a bit arrogant.

[wrath]

Now now bambinos and bambinas... let's play nice with each other. I'm smelling a match here with this back and forth. lol.

It's nice to come back for Never Say Die. Glad I could help swerve you Pariah. First real return swerve in PWX history! Woo!

Good show, all in all.

And the Trocadero people fucked up and lost their lease on corner of Swanson and Ritner so... THE ARENA LIVES! VIKING HALL REMAINS! WWWWWWWWOOOOOO!

[jordancaliban]

thats easy for you to say and on here at one point it looked like none of you were going to RP until you got an extra day, all the trash talk and shit wouldnt of happened if I hadnt started it because in case you missed it nobody else on my team went near it and yet someone like Valero or bruce got more written time and bruce got one of the stupidest most unbelievable spots in the god damn match and he didnt RP so yes I am pissed that I spent a match that I worked damn hard on to be stuck out on the ring apron and anytime I was in the ring to be made to look inferior to the rest of you and automatically put back out, so willow how about you go back to whatever else it is you do and get off your damn high horse and think how you would feel if you were me

[Willow Wilkes]

First off I have been doing this for 15 years, I guarantee you I have been the recipient of more screw jobs than you can imagine and since you don't know me don't start assuming I wasn't going to promo because of the deadline extension, my promo was well on the way to be completed and posted plenty of time before the deadline Wed but after Drew told me about the extension I took the extra time as I had a right too so please let's not throw that into the list of gripes you have, You see the difference between you and me is if I had a problem I would go to the source and iron it out not throw other people under the bus to toot your own horn. You talk about "High Horses", look no further bro as I am not the one claiming I started the "Trash Talk", I sold the match or put the most effort in, you are so let's not split hairs. I know you're upset but the answer is bitching about it? Getting defensive when someone makes a comment you don't like? There is nothing you can say to me that I haven't heard before and trust me this is a game nothing more. I agree with you that when you put a huge effort into something and the payoff doesn't match that said effort it sucks, I have felt it so many times so yes I know how you feel but instead of aiming your anger and frustrations at everyone else? Find a solution collectively and fix it. I'm not going to argue or get in a forum post war with you, I have no time for it but I ask you this like you asked me, how would YOU like it if I said I did all the work and you did nothing? It's a catch 22 bro. Again, I have no problem with you, I made a comment about something you said, that was my opinion, take it as you want it but I'm not here to fight with anyone, let's fix the problem and be done with it, there's no need to drag this out any further.

[troystone]

Match of the Night: I thought the main event was well written. The semi-main event was really good too with everything that happened there.

Segment of the Night: I'll technically say Hollywood turning heel since that was technically a segment. I knew beforehand this was happening but I thought it was executed really well and that should lead to some cool stuff.

Break out Star: Abigail Lindsay, although in defeat, was very much worthy of being in the main event match.

Face of the Night: I'll go with Pariah. He definitely looked heroic in the semi-main event like a fired up babyface should. He gets the nod.

Heel of the Night: Gotta go with Hollywood and the heel turn.

Show Rating: 9. it was the biggest show of the year so in theory there's a lot of pressure with that. With that said I thought the show form top to bottom was really good and this shows leads into a lot of stuff in the future, which is always good. PWX continues to grow and that is awesome.

Comments/Concerns: Alright so the elephant in the room. I guess we'll talk about this eh? Ha Ok then the Six Man(the second one, not the semi main). Basically when I was writing the match with the thought of since it's a six man tag it's about teamwork. Sure I could have went with the Dragon gate style six man(as an avid Dragon Gate Japan not DGUSA fan I know the style very well) it could have been a "movez" six man, but I chose not to go that route. And yeah sure Bruce and the Shooters Gallery got the majority of the offense but that's wrestling 101. Heels work over the faces til the hot tag and the comeback. Now my intention certainty wasn't to like not have Calliban in the match(there really wouldn't be a reason for me to do this). I guess i just wrote and it happened that way. Do I regret how I wrote the match? No because I'm not perfect and I wasn't trying to craft the "perfect match". I focus more on storytelling, psychology that is. If I would have known the reaction you were going to react I would have put him in the match more but yeah I don't regret how I wrote it. I guess in theory I can see why you would be upset since you apparently you put everything you could in your RP. So I'm not saying that I can't see your point of view here. I mean I only go 40% of all of my RPs(this includes Troy) anyway but at the same time, I wanted the match to tell a story and give people stuff to do from that. it was my idea for this six man tag and honestly I would suggest using this match as a tool in some type of way. I've always thought e-fedding is basically all about reactions and how you react to things. I mean look David and Anton are feuding again just from that match and that could go somewhere so all hope isn't lost. I can assure you my intention wasn't to like to slight you or anything but like I said I don't regret doing the match how I did it; in theory that is.

[wrath]

Dec 8, 2013 10:33:39 GMT -5 troystone said:

the offense but that's wrestling 101. Heels work over the faces til the hot tag and the comeback.

Truth! Heel team ALWAYS isolates someone and beats them down until the hot tag can be made and the super-face decimation period can begin before the match hits it's wind down point.

And yeah, I hate it, cuz I can call every tag match before it happens.

[troystone]

Dec 8, 2013 23:52:34 GMT -5 wrath said:

Dec 8, 2013 10:33:39 GMT -5 troystone said:

the offense but that's wrestling 101. Heels work over the faces til the hot tag and the comeback.

Truth! Heel team ALWAYS isolates someone and beats them down until the hot tag can be made and the super-face decimation period can begin before the match hits it's wind down point.

And yeah, I hate it, cuz I can call every tag match before it happens.

We'll it's been done a lot since the dawn of time but it's effective and it's how things go in wrestling. Faces get the beatdown but then made the fiery comeback. draws people in all the time(when done correctly.)

[wrath]

Yeah, that's why I prefer solo work or clusterfucks, they're not such a set formula. Unless it's the Osirian Portal... those dudes crack me up.